Part 1: About Svali
While running our
Illuminati: How the Cult Programs People'
we received a few emails that were of somewhat skeptical nature and/or
requesting more information.
Needless to say I had
some questions of my own regarding some details of the Illuminati and
their agenda, and so I got in touch with 'Svali' (her pseudonym), an
Ex-Illuminati Programmer/Trainer, to find out more about her claims.
In the following few
episodes I will enlighten you (pardon the pun), as much as I can, with
additional knowledge I received from her.
Our correspondence took
place in the form of an email interview, which I left mainly intact. I
only edited it for spelling and punctuation; minus some personal
information addressed to me.
Should you have any
additional questions you would like to ask Svali, please email me at mailto:email@example.com?subject=question
for Svali and I
will forward them to her for a possible future article.
Following is the first
part of our interview:
Dear Mr. Springer,
Thank you for
contacting me. Actually, I just received a somewhat skeptical email
today from someone who read the information at your site.
I would be more than
happy to answer questions about validity, etc. with the following
provision. I write under a pen name to protect my two children and
husband, whom I do not want to have receiving hostile or threatening
phone calls, etc. My two children are still healing from the experiences
of being raised in the group as well, and I don't want any experiences
that could traumatize them.
The topic I am
addressing is somewhat volatile, to say the least. People have strong
emotions pro and con as to whether the Illuminati are real. That said, I
will give you a little background info, feel free to share this with
readers. Also, my column at Suite101.com
(I have a column on ritual abuse; do a search on 'svali') has numerous
articles on this topic if people want to learn more.
1. I was born in 1957
in Alexandria, Virginia. I lived briefly in a small town about an hour
away from Washington, DC, then moved to a 500 acre farm in northern
Virginia when my mother married my stepfather. Both my mother and my
stepfather were members of this group. It is a very generational group.
My mother sat on the regional council over the Washington, DC area and
was in the "spiritual chair" (the Illuminati have 6 chairs on
their ascended masters council: Sciences, Government, Leadership,
Scholarship, Spiritual, and Military.)
These also correlate to
the areas that children are taught growing up in this group. They
believe in "well rounded" children. The "spiritual"
rituals, or occult rituals, were only one small part of the teaching of
this group, the other five areas are also equally emphasized. I spent
more time learning history, languages, and sciences than I did seeing
rituals, although they were important to the group.
2. I went to school in
Charlottesville, Va. 1975 to 1981, where I received a BSN in nursing,
and a BA in Spanish ( I got two degrees). This is also a place where a
lot of intense abuse and occultic crimes occurred, on an estate about 10
miles south west of Charlottesville going towards Crowley, Virginia.
3. After graduation, I
went to San Diego in 1981 ( I was called there by the leadership there,
they were strong in military training but weak in sciences, which was my
forte). I came and sat on leadership council, I was the sixth head
trainer there (the lowest head trainer) and had 30 trainers in the local
groups reporting to me. Leadership council met in Ramona, Ca. on an
estate there that belonged to a man named Jonathan Meiers.
When I went to the
police in 1996 (after I had left the group) sure enough, there was an
estate there belonging to someone with that name. One of his cult names
was "Black Hand" because he wore black gloves when he worked
with people. He was the head trainer in the group, and one of the most
sadistic and brutal people I ever knew. He burned out most of the
trainers that worked with him, and I made it because I had a friend on
leadership council who hated him and helped me undermine him (the
Illuminati are a very political and back stabbing group, a "dog eat
dog" mentality; everyone wants to move up ). Her cult name was
After years (12) of
working with Jonathan, I moved up to the second head trainer position in
the county. Jonathan was getting ready to move to regional, and he
wanted me to take his place. But he and I also despised each other, and
he set me up to take a fall. That's a whole different story, and was one
of the factors that made me leave the group.
I left the group in
1995, sick of the lying, deceiving, and politics, and fearful for my
life. I fled to Texas, and went through therapy with Dr. Jerry Mundgaze
and his group. But unfortunately, they didn't know how to help
"deprogram me", or as Dr. Mundgaze told me, "you are
higher than almost anyone we have seen, and more programmed."
I remembered so much,
and he had never heard of it and had no idea how to help (definitely no
suggesting of memories there, most of mine occurred spontaneously, AT
HOME. I have never been hypnotized or age regressed, all of my memories
have occurred in the course of daily life).
I spent a year
intensely deprogramming myself. I was a head programmer, or trainer, so
I used my knowledge to undo what was done to me. I also became enraged
as I realized that the abuse I had endured (and done to others) was NOT
normal, was used to manipulate me, etc.
My book is based on my
memories as an ADULT in this group. I was a perpetrator, and I now
regret it considerably. It is my restitution before God as I expose what
this group does and stands for. I also wrote it for therapists, to help
them understand the group and its methodologies, since it was so
difficult to hear from a nationally known ritual abuse center, "we
don't know what to do...". I based it on what I did to heal.
Two years ago, my
children were on visitation with me and disclosed their abuse to me. I
went to CPS, and the case was closed, because the worker said she didn't
believe in ritual abuse! My ex came to get the children (he could have
put me in federal prison for not giving the children back, since the San
Diego court system blatantly states that they do not believe in ritual
abuse, and in EVERY case of alleged RA, the children are given to the
allegedly abusing parent).
The children confronted
him in person. He turned white as a sheet, said, "you really don't
want to go back to "family", they said "no". He then
fled to California, quit his job, and moved out here and is in therapy
for RA and DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder).
My children are also in
therapy, and healing rapidly. My now 12 year old son is almost
completely integrated, and happier than he has ever been before; my 16
year old daughter has some tough issues to face, such as the sexual
abuse she endured. But God has been faithful in His healing work in all
of our lives.
I wish that this was
just "made up". That it weren't real. But it is. There is too
much documentation of this occurring (I can send you an URL for
documented convicted RA cases). My greatest regret is that I was used by
this group, after a lifetime of teaching, to be a perpetrator of the
worst kind. I used to torture and abuse others, believing that I was
Now, I realize that
what I did was wrong, I have asked God's forgiveness. And am committed
to exposing this group through my writing. I am also a professional
writer in the medical field, was a registered nurse for 18+ years, and
currently work as an ESL teacher, health educator, and freelance author
(on non-abuse topics!).
I hope this is enough
background info, it is the truth before God and men. If you need any
other, that won't compromise my anonymity or my children's protection,
please let me know.
PS. My younger sister remembers being tied up on a stone altar at the
age of 3, with a gag in her mouth, and being raped. She also remembers
our paternal grandmother taking her to friends, who used her sexually at
the ages of 3 to 5.
She became an alcoholic
at age 13, after trying to commit suicide 7 times by age 12. My older
brother has NO memories of ANYTHING AT ALL before age 20, his life is a
complete blank. He does believe that our father was a perverse and
strange man. This brother was cut down from our garage when he was 8,
and tried to hang himself.
My oldest brother is on
the run, afraid to live anywhere for more than a few months, because he
believes they want to "get him." He also tried to commit
suicide many times as a young child. This is somewhat corroborating
evidence, as well as the fact that both of my children dream in German
at night (that is the language they speak in the Illuminati) and have
NEVER heard it in the daytime.
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